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ODA Committee Update
dated May 11, 2004
posted August 3, 2004

ONTARIANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT COMMITTEE UPDATE

Ontario Government Makes Public The Feedback Received During Its ODA Consultation Public Forums

May 11, 2004

Summary

The Ontario Government has posted summaries of the feedback it received
during its open ODA consultation public forums on the Ministry of
Citizenship and Immigration's website. See text of that posting below.
This is a very positive step for two reasons.

First, the feedback documented in this summary strongly supports the need
for the Ontarians with Disabilities Act 2001 to be strengthened along the
lines that the ODA Committee has proposed, and in accordance with the
Liberal Government's 2003 election pledges. The feedback reported below is
very similar to that which the ODA Committee has received whenever it has
consulted the disability community over the past nine years. It is
noteworthy that many of those who took part in these public consultations
were not necessarily individuals and organizations which have been involved
with the ODA Committee for a long time, or at all. This shows that our
message is continuing to be endorsed very broadly. It must be remembered
that the current Government's public consultation forums, unlike any held by
the previous Conservative Government, were open to anyone, and were not
invitation-only.

Second, it is very commendable that the Government has put forward what
certainly appears to be an accurate account of the feedback it received, and
has made it public. In contrast, when the previous Conservative Government
held public consultations on the ODA, it didn't release any documentation on
those consultations until required to do so in response to demands under the
Freedom of Information Act. Moreover, in 1998, when then citizenship
Minister Isabel Bassett gave ODA Committee representatives a briefing on the
results of her ODA consultations, her summary didn't reflect the broad
support for strong legislation that she received, and instead was tailored
to make it sound like the feedback received generally supported the
Conservative Government's opposition to passing strong and effective ODA
legislation. The previous Conservative Government never made public
consultation result summaries like those set out below.

We thank and congratulate everyone who took the time to give the Ontario
Government their feedback and ideas during this public consultation process.

Send us your thoughts.

Contact us at:
oda@odacommittee.net




ONTARIO GOVERNMENT SUMMARIES OF FEEDBACK RECEIVED DURING WINTER/SPRING 2004 ODA CONSULTATION PUBLIC FORUMS

ODA Public Meeting Summary

Windsor, February 4, 2004

Context and Remarks

Dr. Kuldip Kular, Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Citizenship and
Immigration, Dr. Marie Bountrogianni, opened the meeting by underlining the
government's commitment to working with Ontarians with disabilities on
strong and effective legislation.

As part of its province-wide consultation process, the Ministry is talking
to people with disabilities, their family members, caregivers and service
providers as well as other interested parties in numerous sectors - both
public and private. Dr. Kular reinforced the government's firm commitment to
implementing meaningful measures that will allow people of all abilities to
fully participate in the life of the province and achieve their potential.

Sandra Pupatello, Windsor West MPP, Minister of Community and Social
Services and Minister Responsible for Women's Issues, addressed the
attendees at the outset of the meeting. She underscored the importance of
these meetings, especially since disability issues affect the business of
her ministries in providing services to Ontarians.

Summary of Key Issues

Speakers were given approximately 3 minutes each to speak about ways to
eliminate or prevent barriers that people with disabilities face. Key issues
included:

Standards

Many participants raised the need for barrier-free standards and guidelines,
specifically concerning the Ontario Building Code, with flexibility around
timelines to allow time for compliance. Other issues included TTY services,
American Sign Language (ASL) interpretation, audio/visual alarms, accessible
signage, snow removal and enforceable standards for a suitable quantity of
affordable, accessible housing.

A speaker representing people who are blind and have low vision indicated
that low cost options such as tactile signage, safer traffic intersections
and colour contrasting are easy to implement, but there is a lack of
municipal support for such initiatives. Numerous speakers raised the need
for enforceable standards pertaining to equal access to job opportunities,
given the stigma around hiring people with disabilities.

Best Practices

Participants felt that best practices should be publicized and shared among
sectors to avoid "reinventing the wheel". Organizations that prepared
successful accessibility plans should be recognized and rewarded.

Enforcement

Some speakers raised the need for penalties if barriers are not removed.
Organizations representing the deaf community talked about enforcement
mechanisms needed to ensure provision of qualified ASL interpreters.

Employment

Several speakers mentioned that people with disabilities are frequently not
able to access gainful employment and have to rely on social assistance if
they cannot break down those barriers. It was felt that corporations and
government facilities need to set in place policies and procedures that
would be non-discriminatory and would encourage hiring people with
disabilities who can contribute to their workforce. One Windsor employer
equipped a worker who is deaf with a pager and visual messaging, which helps
him do his job. He and his colleagues are able to communicate with each
other via e-mail and text paging so that they are always in touch. Employers
could also hire qualified ASL interpreters for training and orientation
purposes.

Awareness and Sensitivity Training

There is a need for more public awareness and sensitivity training to change
attitudes towards people with disabilities. One specific area of concern is
workplace sensitivity training: a woman who is deaf has minimal to no
interaction with her colleagues who do not know ASL. She would like to get
to know them and talk about their everyday lives.

Funding

Several speakers outlined the need for increased funding to be available to
people with disabilities, visible and invisible, through increased Ontario
Disability Support Program (ODSP) payments and funding sources for housing
and transportation needs.

ODSP was mentioned a number of times: most speakers agreed that ODSP
financial support is not sufficient. One speaker criticized the length of
time it takes to start getting payments, and another indicated that if a
person with a disability starts working and goes off ODSP, it is impossible
to get back on.

Transportation

Issues about transportation barriers included the need for
interjurisdictional or regional transit systems to allow accessible buses to
travel outside city limits, the lack of transportation assistance for people
with mental illnesses and the need for additional funding to purchase
accessible transit buses, which are 30% more expensive than standard buses.
Other

* Several speakers mentioned that government ministries could work
together more effectively and efficiently to remove barriers to
accessibility.

* Others raised the issue that there is no local child psychologist and
a high rate of suicides among youth.

Closing Remarks

Dr. Kular closed the forum by thanking everyone for their time, comments and
suggestions. He felt that the meeting was an important step in the process
of collecting information about accessibility and inclusion. Dr. Kular
reminded participants that with their input, the government will deliver
real positive change in creating a province where full accessibility
benefits us all.

*****

ODA Public Meeting Summary

Ottawa, February 12, 2004

Context and Remarks

Dr. Kuldip Kular, Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Citizenship and
Immigration, Dr. Marie Bountrogianni, opened the meeting by underlining the
government's commitment to working with Ontarians with disabilities on
strong and effective legislation.

As part of its province-wide consultation process, the Ministry is talking
to people with disabilities, their family members, caregivers and service
providers as well as other interested parties in numerous sectors - both
public and private - in order to improve accessibility in Ontario.

Summary of Key Issues

Speakers were given approximately three minutes each to speak about ways to
improve accessibility in their communities. Key issues included:

Awareness and Sensitivity Training

It was felt that strong measures such as sensitivity training are needed to
educate the public and service providers on access, as attitudinal barriers
are much harder to remove than physical ones. For example, there is a need
for awareness and training to change attitudes about mental illness, which
is increasingly common in youth and young adults. The public needs to be
aware of the definition of "disability", whether or not the disability is
visible.

Universal Design

Speakers mentioned that the government and professional schools should bring
together knowledge of human factors, universal design, and usability into
the university curriculum for the next generation of product designers,
engineers, computer scientists and MBA graduates. There were suggestions to
amend the Ontario Building Code to include principles of universal design.

Education and Youth

There was specific reference to young people with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
(CFS) whose needs are not accommodated in school because they do not qualify
for special educational services under the Education Act. Accommodation
provided to students with special needs usually focuses on the mainstream
classroom, whereas students with CFS would benefit from services such as
part-time school, home instruction, or electronic instruction through the
Internet.

As well, speakers mentioned that school boards do not provide interpreters
for parents who are deaf who want to attend parent/teacher meetings or
school council meetings, thereby restricting the involvement of these
parents in the future development of their children.

Employment

Some participants felt that mechanisms are needed to ensure people with
disabilities have access to education and different job opportunities and
career choices. Specific reference to the need for employment equity
included examples like Oregon and California, where affirmative action
programs have been successful for some time.

ODA Legislation

A number of speakers raised issues directly related to the ODA, including:

* introducing mandatory enforcement provisions and time for the private
sector;

* legislated standards and audits for accessibility plans and timelines
to ensure municipalities are implementing their plans;

* the Ontario government leading by example by making all of its
programs and buildings fully accessible to people with disabilities;

* accessibility standards that include quality of life issues, including
adequate basic income for people below the poverty line;

* audits/surveys of facilities to determine existing barriers;

* provisions in the ODA should be consistent with the 11 principles and
the amendments made by the Liberal Party when in Opposition;

* elevating the status of the ODA so that it supersedes other
legislation, and

* regulatory consistency among provinces through a federal disabilities
act.

Invisible Disabilities

It was felt that individuals with developmental disabilities, especially
those who live at home with their families, should have access to annual
funding that is similar to funding available to individuals with physical
disabilities. As well, ministries could take an integrated approach to
developing programs for children of all ages who have disabilities, instead
of prescriptive programs for children under or over the age of six.

Funding

Several speakers outlined the need for increased funding for people with
both visible and invisible disabilities.

The Ontario Disability Support Program (ODSP) was mentioned a number of
times: most speakers agreed that ODSP financial support is not sufficient.
Speakers recommended removing the benefit claw back provision from ODSP and
allowing people to work and keep more funding support, e.g. ODSP or federal
child support payments.

Closing Remarks

Dr. Kular closed the forum by thanking everyone for their time, comments and
suggestions. He felt that the meeting was an important step in the process
of collecting information about accessibility and inclusion. Dr. Kular
reminded participants that with their input, the government will deliver
real positive change in creating a province where full accessibility
benefits us all.

*****

ODA Public Meeting Summary

Hamilton, February 19, 2004

Context and Remarks

The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration, Dr. Marie Bountrogianni, and
Parliamentary Assistant, Dr. Kuldip Kular, opened the meeting by underlining
the government's commitment to working with Ontarians with disabilities on
strong and effective legislation.

A province-wide consultation is underway to get input from people with
disabilities, their family members, caregivers and service providers as well
as other interested parties in numerous sectors - both public and
private -in order to improve accessibility in Ontario.

Summary of Key Issues

Speakers were given approximately three minutes each to present ways to
improve accessibility in their communities. Key issues included:

Workplace Accessibility

Participants spoke of the need for the ODA to address accommodation in the
workplace, including imposing penalties for organizations or employers who
do not comply. Some felt that all workplaces should be audited to assess
what employment barriers exist, and develop measures and timelines for
barrier removal.

Accountability and Enforcement

It was suggested that the ODA include a mandatory provision to create a
judicial body that would educate, mediate and arbitrate on matters
concerning barriers to accommodation and measures to address existing and
potential future barriers. Speakers also called for fines for failure to
remove snow from disabled parking spots and amendments to address separate,
designated parking spaces - one for wheelchairs/scooters and the other for
canes, walkers and seniors, since the amount of space differs with various
mobility devices.

Standards

While the Ontario Building Code outlines accessibility requirements for new
buildings, standards for retrofitting are still not comprehensive. It was
suggested that the Ministry of Citizenship and Immigration (MCI) work with
the Ministry of Municipal Affairs to further develop provincial building
standards that would help break - or bridge - silos among the Planning Act,
Building Code and other related legislation that impacts on daily lives. As
well, it was suggested that MCI work with professional associations
specializing in barrier-free issues to develop professional competence in
accommodation. Participants also felt that accessibility standards should
apply to the private sector.

Funding

The funding issues presented by various speakers included: provincial
criteria for capital funding should require inclusion of accessibility
features in structures; effective funding for public education to improve
accessibility for students of all abilities; and, providing more choice in
publicly-funded services for individuals with disabilities.

Developmental Disabilities

Speakers voiced concerns about problems that speech services for autistic
children are fragmented with long waiting lists, and that services to
children are cut off at the age of five. Others mentioned fragmentation in
services, particularly mental health services, for children with
developmental disabilities - there is poor communication within the system
and no medical focus. As well, many parents of adults with developmental
disabilities cannot work because they have to care for their adult children,
due to lack of programs and job opportunities.

Income Support

Many participants raised the concern that recipients of income support
through the Ontario Disability Support Program (ODSP) have not received any
payment increases in 11 years. In fact, many people with disabilities who
depend on this income supplement live below the poverty line. Those who are
successful in finding employment lose a substantial portion of their ODSP
payment if they earn more than $160 per month. Other ODSP issues included
the need for the program to cover the cost of adaptive technology for people
with learning disabilities, and sensitivity training for income support
specialists who interact with ODSP clients.

Housing

Some speakers felt that families who renovate their existing homes for
accessibility should receive the same partial assessment exemption as those
building custom homes, as they are helping to fill a need for decent,
affordable and accessible housing for people with disabilities.

Transportation

The need to book accessible public transit a week or more in advance
prohibits any kind of spontaneity for peoples with disabilities. This also
has a substantial impact on youth with disabilities, who cannot enjoy the
same kinds of activities with friends who are not dependent on accessible
transportation.

Closing Remarks

Dr. Bountrogianni thanked all participants for their time, valuable input
and active discussion of issues associated with accessibility and inclusion.
In closing, the Minister assured participants that their input would play an
important role in helping the government develop viable measures to make the
ODA strong and effective for all Ontarians, delivering real, positive
change, and creating a province where full accessibility benefits everyone.

*****

ODA Public Meeting Summary

Peterborough, February 26, 2004

Context and Remarks

Dr. Kuldip Kular, Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Citizenship and
Immigration, Dr. Marie Bountrogianni, opened the meeting by underlining the
government's commitment to working with Ontarians with disabilities on
strong and effective legislation. As part of its province-wide consultation
process, the Ministry is talking to people with disabilities, their family
members, caregivers and service providers, as well as other interested
parties in the public and private sectors.

Summary of Key Issues

Enforcement and Compliance

Some speakers felt that the government should introduce penalties and fines
to ensure compliance and accountability. Others mentioned the possibility of
introducing more grants and tax incentives for all sectors to encourage
accessibility.

Facilities

Various speakers mentioned that ODA accessibility requirements need to
include the private sector and a number of frequently accessed facilities,
including: day care centres, private medical clinics, doctors offices,
nursing homes, police and fire stations.

Accessibility Advisory Committee (AAC) Support and Accessibility Planning

Participants identified ways to better support accessibility planning. It
was felt that the AACs should seek public input through open meetings, have
authority to approve municipal accessibility plans and impose
recommendations, and share best practices and information among AACs in
other municipalities to address regional needs such as transportation.

Transportation

Speakers pointed out that lack of accessible transportation is a major
barrier to attending school, finding employment, accessing medical services
and incorporating spontaneity in social activities. As well, there are
policies that prevent parents with disabilities from travelling with their
children. Participants also said that the Ministry of Transportation needs
to regulate accessible taxis, which would increase transportation options
for people with disabilities and improve service.

Health

Some felt that the ODA needs to be more specific in addressing the needs of
people with disabilities seeking health care. For example, hospitals should
provide interpreters for people who are deaf and nursing homes need to
address specific cultural and accommodation needs of residents with
disabilities. Several speakers representing the deaf community expressed
concerns about possible cutbacks to the Assistive Devices Program (ADP),
which will have a negative impact on affordability of hearing aids, TTYs and
other equipment required for full inclusion in society.

Education/Training

Many participants felt that more work is needed to be done to break down
attitudinal barriers in the workplace, specifically regarding mental health
illnesses and interacting with people who are deaf. Awareness programs
should be introduced to the younger generations to prevent them from having
attitudinal barriers as adults. There was also concern about a general lack
of education and awareness of accessibility issues among professionals in
the community, which contributes to attitudinal barriers.

Funding

Some speakers focused on the need to attach approval criteria to provincial
capital funding, ensuring that barriers are not created by projects that are
provincially funded. As well, obligated organizations facing fiscal
constraints need additional funding to implement their accessibility plans
and achieve full accessibility in their communities.

Housing

Speakers mentioned the need to amend the Ontario Building Code to better
address the accessibility requirements of people with disabilities. As well,
it was felt that the government needs to address the long lists of people
with disabilities waiting for affordable, accessible housing, of which there
is a shortage.

Ontario Disability Support Program (ODSP)

A number of people raised concerns about ODSP, including the need to: raise
income rates which are currently below the poverty line; review or eliminate
the $160 cap on monthly employment income; provide sensitivity training for
income support specialists; simplify the ODSP application process and forms;
improve access to information to help caregivers act as advocates on behalf
of people with disabilities, and allow ODSP benefit payments to caregivers
or family members in need. People over the age of 65, and no longer eligible
for ODSP, lose certain disability-related benefits that are not covered by
other programs targeting seniors (i.e., costs for dental work and glasses).

Education

Challenges facing students with disabilities were outlined, including:
choosing a school based on accessibility, not program preference; carrying
heavy debt loads; additional barriers created by the Grade 10 literacy test,
which some felt discriminates against some students with learning
disabilities; the need to review minimum college literacy requirements,
particularly for people who are deaf; and changing the Ontario Student
Assistance Program (OSAP) to offer grants, not loans, to students with
disabilities facing additional costs in pursuing post-secondary education.

Closing Remarks

Dr. Kular closed the forum by thanking everyone for their time, comments and
suggestions. He felt that the meeting was an important step in the process
of collecting information about accessibility and inclusion. Dr. Kular
reminded participants that with their input, the government will deliver
real, positive change in creating a province where full accessibility
benefits us all.

*****

ODA Public Meeting Summary

Sudbury, March 17, 2004

Context and Remarks

Dr. Kuldip Kular, Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Citizenship and
Immigration, Dr. Marie Bountrogianni, opened the meeting by underlining the
government's commitment to working with Ontarians with disabilities on ways
to make the ODA strong and effective. As part of its province-wide
consultation process, the Ministry is talking to people with disabilities,
their family members, caregivers and service providers as well as other
interested parties in numerous sectors - both public and private.

Summary of Key Issues

Ontarians with Disabilities Act

Many felt that the roles and responsibilities of the Accessibility
Directorate and the Accessibility Advisory Council need to be clarified. The
ODA should also be clear about accessibility planning support available for
obligated sectors, and should ensure that municipal cost-savings initiatives
do not cause barriers (e.g. reduction of snow removal services). Other
suggestions included:

* monitoring municipalities with fewer than 10,000 residents for
accountability and compliance with the requirements of the Act;

* promoting a cross-government approach to ensure government buildings,
programs and services are accessible and that policies are co-ordinated and
consistent, and

* ensuring that ministries consult with stakeholders when preparing
their accessibility plans.

Enforcement

Some speakers suggested an enforcement mechanism to monitor the progress of
sectors obligated under the ODA and oblige the private sector to make their
products, services and locations accessible. As well, it was felt that
Section 21 of the Act, dealing with penalties, should be proclaimed so that
organizations that do not prepare plans are fined.

Issues Facing People Who are Deaf, Deafened or Hard of Hearing

Many speakers agreed that people who are deaf, deafened or hard of hearing
are still struggling with inaccessibility in many areas, such as hospitals
and airports (no TTY service, inadequate paging systems, no visual fire
alarms). The government should develop standards to ensure that the deaf
community can travel safely and have access to services in each community.
This includes availability of qualified American Sign Language (ASL) and
langue des signes quebecoise (LSQ) interpreters. Lack of these affects
participation in school, meetings, and volunteer work.

Standards

Many remarks touched on the need to set and monitor common standards for
accessibility plans, construction and renovation under the Ontario Building
Code, and improved accessible transportation (taxis, buses) in the North. It
was felt that if the province does not establish standards, people with
disabilities will be forced to leave Northern communities and move to
Southern communities that are more accessible.

Education/Training

Some speakers suggested that the ministry offer sensitivity training to
organizations obligated under the Act. As well, the ministry should provide
more information and training on invisible disabilities.

Funding

It was felt that government ministries are creating barriers by not aligning
services for people with disabilities. Many programs and policies offered by
ministries do not complement each other and only cover partial service or
cost, e.g. Assistive Devices Program (ADP), Ontario Disability Support
Program (ODSP), Ontario Student Assistance Program (OSAP).Various funding
programs (such as "Direct Funding Program" and home care programs) need to
be reviewed and enhanced so that people are not forced to move into
institutionalized care if they require only a few hours of assistance per
week, or be without services while on a waiting list. OSAP's grace period
for students with disabilities should be extended from the current period of
six months as it creates barriers to recent graduates with disabilities who
cannot find employment.

Ontario Disability Support Program (ODSP)

Many participants expressed concerns with the ODSP, which is administered by
the Ministry of Community and Social Services. The following issues were
raised:

* Need for increase in income support to secure the basic necessities of
life (food, transportation, medication) much less participate in the
community;

* Earnings exemption should be increased to allow clients who do work to
retain more of their wage without deduction;

* Quarterly cost of living increases for Canada Pension Plan disability
payments should not be deducted from ODSP entitlement;

* Transportation (bus pass) should be included as a benefit to ODSP;

* Over the counter drugs should be covered by the ODSP health benefit;

* Annual cost of living increase should be included in ODSP payments;

* Application forms and process for ODSP benefits should be simplified.

Closing Remarks

Dr. Kular closed the forum by thanking everyone for their time, comments and
suggestions. He felt that the meeting was an important step in the process
of collecting information about accessibility and inclusion. Dr. Kular
reminded participants that with their input, the government will deliver
real positive change in creating a province where full accessibility
benefits us all.

*****

ODA Public Meeting Summary

GTA, March 23, 2004

Context and Remarks

Dr. Kuldip Kular, Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Citizenship and
Immigration, Dr. Marie Bountrogianni, opened the meeting by underlining the
government's commitment to working with Ontarians with disabilities on
strong and effective legislation. As part of its province-wide consultation
process, the Ministry is talking to people with disabilities, their family
members, caregivers and service providers as well as other interested
parties in numerous sectors - both public and private.

Summary of Key Issues

Ontarians with Disabilities Act (ODA)

Many felt that the ODA is a good starting point, but needs to be
strengthened to include the private sector, including enforcement, timelines
and standards. As well, the ODA should focus not only on physical
disabilities, but also hidden disabilities, including mental health and
emerging environmental disabilities.

Some speakers recommended expanding the reference to service dogs in the Act
's definition of disability to include guide dogs in training. Currently,
service dogs in training are not allowed in taxis and some establishments,
which inhibits situational exposure in preparing them to work as guide dogs.

Standards

It was suggested that implementation timelines and standards be phased in,
noting, "every community is not a cookie cutter just as each individual is
not a cookie cutter". Others noted that guidelines, such as the new CSA
barrier-free design standards that are about to be released, should be
reflected in the Ontario Building Code (OBC) and other guidelines.

Education and Awareness

Speakers felt that large corporations and government agencies should mirror
steps taken by colleges and universities to establish special needs offices
to accommodate people with disabilities. This may help to promote awareness,
as would positive media coverage, a dedicated Disability Awareness Month,
widespread public education campaigns and, potentially, a ministry dedicated
to disability issues.

Enforcement

Several people called for a new central office or agency to investigate
whether people with disabilities were having their needs met. There was also
a suggestion to create province-wide requirements for designated parking for
people with disabilities, which would regulate fines and penalties for
illegal parking in designated parking spaces.

Funding

Many speakers mentioned the need for more funding for families supporting
individuals with serious disabilities, autism and early intervention
programs, audiology and speech-language support programs, and for
communication devices available through the Assistive Devices Program (ADP).
Others suggested that a portion of the fuel tax be designated to resolving
transportation issues faced by people with disabilities.

Ontario Disability Support Program (ODSP)

A number of speakers raised concerns related to the ODSP, including:

* promoting the availability of income support;

* raising the rates - which have not been increased in 11 years;

* reviewing and amending policies related to allowable earned income,
taxation levels and subsidized housing charges;

* stopping the delisting of medication covered by ODSP;

* providing subsidies for post-secondary education courses;

* allowing ODSP payments to continue past age 65, and

* providing training for ODSP staff on how to treat clients when dealing
with sensitive matters.

Provincial Identification Cards

Several individuals stressed the need for the government to introduce a
provincial ID card that would have the same status as a driver's license and
be as widely accepted. Non-drivers, including people who are blind, must
carry their passports with them for daily activities like banking, because
they do not have a driver's license to verify their identity.

Transportation

Many called for broader eligibility criteria for parallel transportation and
for designated parking, to include people other than those who are unable to
walk a certain distance. Others outlined suggestions for allowing
escorts/attendants on public transit, issuing transit passes for people
receiving ODSP payments, addressing problems with travel across regional
boundaries, and ensuring that accessible public vehicles meet safety
standards.

Employment

Many speakers stressed the need for initiatives under the ODA to address
rates of underemployment and unemployment for people with disabilities,
particularly among people who are deaf.

Closing Remarks

Dr. Kular closed the forum by thanking everyone for their time, comments and
suggestions. He felt that the meeting was an important step in the process
of collecting information about accessibility and inclusion. Dr. Kular
reminded participants that with their input, the government will deliver
real positive change in creating a province where full accessibility
benefits us all.

*****

ODA Public Meeting Summary

Thunder Bay, March 25, 2004

Context and Remarks

Dr. Kuldip Kular, Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Citizenship and
Immigration, Dr. Marie Bountrogianni, opened the meeting by underlining the
government's commitment to working with Ontarians with disabilities on
strong and effective legislation. As part of its province-wide consultation
process, the Ministry is talking to people with disabilities, their family
members, caregivers and service providers as well as other interested
parties in both the public and private sectors.

Summary of Key Issues

Ontarians with Disabilities Act (ODA)

Many speakers felt that the ODA should supersede other acts to ensure
greater accessibility, include the 11 principles put forward by the
Ontarians with Disabilities Act Committee (ODAC) and include the private
sector to address issues associated with private sector business and
facilities. As well, the government should consult with stakeholders on an
ongoing basis to strengthen the Act.

Standards and Guidelines

Stronger Ontario Building Code (OBC) standards for accessibility were
recommended in response to current concerns that the new hospital in Thunder
Bay is inaccessible in many respects, but meets standards in the OBC that
are "open to interpretation".

Enforcement

It was recommended that the ODA be enforceable through the Ontario Human
Rights Commission and should compel organizations to remove barriers and
prevent new ones. While some felt that incentives are better than a strict
enforcement process, others suggested governments should not have to provide
incentives to organizations when they are already required by law to provide
access to goods and services. Some speakers said that the act has to be
strong and that consequences, such as fines, have to follow when obligations
are not met.

Education

Various speakers raised issues about attitudinal barriers facing students,
including:

* classification of exceptionalities, which are based on medical
terminology and do not necessarily capture all types of disabilities;

* labelling - there should be emphasis on capabilities, not
incapabilities; and

* exclusion - all courses and programs in universities should be
accessible to people with disabilities. For example, people with physical
disabilities and mental disabilities are excluded from the Outdoor Education
program at Lakehead University.

Issues Facing People who are Deaf, Deafened and Hard of Hearing

There is a need for general availability of TTY services for people who are
deaf, deafened or hard of hearing to decrease reliance on American Sign
Language (ASL) interpreters. As well, the Assistive Devices Program (ADP)
should include more devices such as TTYs, the costs of which are often
prohibitive. Another suggestion was to include ASL in the school curriculum
as a language credit course.

Funding

Speakers raised the following funding issues:

* The government should financially support organizations working to
improve accessibility, especially in small communities whose budgets are
limited.

* Ontario Disability Support Program (ODSP) policies related to
allowable earned income should be reviewed and amended to eliminate the claw
back of payments in relation to earned income. This would encourage ODSP
recipients to find work, reach their potential and contribute to society.

* There should be a fundraising event in Thunder Bay -- similar to the
Terry Fox Run and the Ride for Heart event in Toronto -- to raise awareness
and money to help remove barriers for people with disabilities.

* Organizations such as Persons United for Self-Help (PUSH) and
Independent Living Centres, which provide expertise to organizations
preparing accessibility plans, are facing financial hardship and should
receive financial support from the government.

* ODA should address financial hardships facing families who raise
children with disabilities and the negative impact this has on family
income. New Zealand legislation makes specific reference to education and
children.

General Comments

Comments and suggestions put forward by participants that did not fall into
one of the themes identified above include:

* the need to change attitudes about disabilities through a public
awareness campaign, sharing best practices and addressing the stigma of
invisible disabilities;

* expanding programs, like those offered by the Independent Living
Centre, that encourage employers to hire people with disabilities;

* addressing the issue that many newborns with disabilities die because
of improper diagnoses and lack of appropriate treatment;

* revisiting Workers' Compensation, ODSP and the Human Rights Code to
better accommodate the needs of injured workers, who want to remain
productive members of society; and

* introducing programs that encourage students to volunteer to assist
people with disabilities - from elementary to university level.

Closing Remarks

Dr. Kular closed the forum by thanking everyone for their time, comments and
suggestions, noting that the meeting was an important step in the process of
collecting information about accessibility and inclusion. Dr. Kular reminded
participants that with their input, the government will deliver real,
positive change in creating a province where full accessibility benefits us
all.



 

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